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Hi,
I've been in US as a teacher/trainee since Feb. 2007. I claimed a tax treaty with Italy, so I didn't pay federal taxes in 2007, 2008 (the tax treaty is valid 2 years). Starting 2008 I have been paying FICA taxes because I was in US 2006 as as student. Since this year I meet the substantial presence test I'm filing 1040EZ as a resident alien for tax purposes. I have one question: Do I still have to fill in form 8843 because of the tax treaty? Or is it just for the FICA exemptions? Thank you! ![]() Added my w-9 states: 1) taxpayer is a US resident alien under the: Substantial Presence Test 2) taxpayer is tax resident of and is claiming a benefit or exclusion under the treaty with: Italy (follows articles and saving clauses, end date 12/31/2008) I had a second question In the California tax return I'm asked to enter the federal adjusted gross income, but since I didn't pay federal taxes it is... 0. I would love to have all the State tax back , but I think I have to enter something else instead.I found out that I have to use CA(540) Adjustments to compute the correct amount. Last edited by cirdok2; 04-13-2009 at 05:37 AM. Reason: solution to the second answer found |
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As a Resident Alien (Form 1040 EZ), you cannot claim Tax Treaty or FICA Tax exemptions, as you are considered a resident for tax purposes.
So a Form 8843, is not required with Form 1040 EZ. If you claim tax treaty or exemption, you are under non resident status, 2 yrs as J1 Teacher or Researchers and 5 years as a Non resident student. In the case you need to file Form 1040NR EZ and Form 8843. Hope it helps!
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The tax treaty with Italy should be claimed also as a resident alien for tax purposes. When I first came I was asked if I wanted start the tax treaty right away o wait a few yeas when the income, hopefully, is higher. (I chose right away)
It can be claimed only as a teacher/trainee, status that comes after 5 years phd (so usually when a people meet the substanstial present test, happened also to me, I was here for 2 years before as a phd student). I've been told to add a note on my 1040, but I was wondering about the 8843. Thanks for your help and for your time.
Last edited by cirdok2; 04-13-2009 at 04:25 PM. |
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Again Non Resident Tax Rules are subjective.
"As a Resident Alien (Form 1040 EZ), you cannot claim Tax Treaty or FICA Tax exemptions, as you are considered a resident for tax purposes." Glad to help!
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if it can help, I received a W9 form:
_________________________________________ US TREATY CLAIM BY A US PERSON 1) taxpayer is a US resident alien under the: Substantial Presence Test 2) taxpayer is tax resident of and is claiming a benefit or exclusion under the treaty with: Italy Treaty Benefit Article: 20 Saving Clause Article: 1(2) Saving Clause Exception Article: 1(3) Article exempt Wages earned as an employee of this institution as a teacher/researche Treaty Benefit End Date:12/31/2008 Treaty Benefit $ Maximum: Unlimited _______________________________________ Should I attach an hardcopy of this form to my 1040 or is it enough to add a note on it? |
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You should attach Form 8833 to explain any treaty exemption.
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thanks
![]() I forgot to tell that in my W2 , box 1 (Wages, Tips, and Other Comp.) is 0. The amount I actually earned is shown in box 3 and 5 (ss, medicare wages and tips). I don't know if this changes anything. So far I have to return: 1040ez 8833 I agree with you when you say it's subjective... in IRS Publication I found Quote:
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Hope it helps!
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Thanks Visa Taxes Expert,
I'll send the 1040NR as you suggested in the title (+ 8833 just for myself, not for my wife, she cannot work in US, J2, no SSN, not applied for a job permit). I will really need a professional service next year since my tax treaty ended in Feb. 2009. I'm going to send to you a more detailed email to ask for a quote. You guys are by far the most friendly (and helpful) tax professional staff I have met so far.
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Glad to help!
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